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Gian Piero Piretto
Do you consider yourself a Cultural
Studies scholar?
Evgeny Dobrenko
Not really. First of all, because I am interested in
particular aspects of culture such as literature, film,
cultural policies and so on. Each field has its own
methodology. Cultural Studies is something very vague.
Vladimir Papernyj
I was when I was writing my PhD
thesis Culture 2 and when I was teaching at University
of Southern California. Now that I spend 50% of my
time on design, I am 50% of a Cultural Studies scholar.
I was always interested in the 1930-40s. First, it was
the time when my parents met, got married and had
me. Second, architecture of the 1930-40s was the environment
I grew up in. I wanted to understand how it
came about. Traditional architectural theory (columns,
orders, tectonics, structures) did not explain much to
me. I thought the answers should come from culture.
Gian Piero Piretto
What's your own definition of Cultural Studies?
Evgeny Dobrenko
Cultural Studies is neither a subject nor a field.
It is grey area, which covers basically the whole spectrum
of Humanities and includes history and philosophy,
film and literature. For many, Cultural Studies is
something very superficial, and rightly so. If you work
on _lm, for example, and do it professionally and in
depth, this is “film studies”, but if you write on film
in conjunction with history or politics, it's already Cultural
Studies. If you write on Eisenstein it is “film studies”, if on Pyr’ev it's Cultural Studies. If you write
on Mandel’štam it is literaturovedenie, but if you write
about Mikhalkov - it's more Cultural Studies. I think people sometimes think that Cultural Studies is some
“junk”. What is not a “serious” subject, is “Cultural
Studies”. I think that Cultural Studies is a response
to the separation of subjects, fields, and research disciplines.
Nevertheless, it doesn't make it a discipline.
Vladimir Papernyj
To me, culture is something that is “playing”, as
Arnold Hauser put it, “with people's motivations and
interests and giving them a sense of freedom”.
Gian Piero Piretto
Do you think Cultural Studies can develop only
in western or capitalistic countries?
Evgeny Dobrenko
Not at all. In Russia, for instance, it is a subject
that covers all “bad”, middle-brow literature, film,
kitsch, in a word. Also, it covers all the lacunas “between”
disciplines and fields.
Vladimir Papernyj
No, my thesis was written entirely in the Soviet
Union, before I ever visited any western capitalistic
country.
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